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標題: 賺夠了就跑，交易不是終身俸! [打印本頁]

作者: sec2100 時間: 2017-4-25 12:47
標題: 賺夠了就跑，交易不是終身俸!
I can't imagine anyone trading their own money not pulling back the risk significantly or giving up trading all together once they've reached their "number". There is so much more to life than wasting it in front of computer screens looking at numbers. Trading your own money isn't boring, regardless of what you hear on ET. Ask anyone who has earned their entire net worth from trading risking their own capital and get back to me. It's super stressful. Sooner or later, you start compromising your health for extra PnL that has no marginal utility. There is a thin line between passion or love and an addiction.

IMO, trading shouldn't be a life long choice, not even a career to be honest. You should make as much as you can as fast as you can, before your alpha disappears or health gets compromised. Just my 2 cents.

資料來源: elitetrader.com

作者: sec2100 時間: 2017-4-25 12:50
sle回應了上面的話，他有位朋友，92歲還在做交易:

You'd think so, but the evidence is to the contrary. Seems like most successful managers/PMs/traders I've seen keep doing it until they run out of alpha. It's possible that the "number "is a moving target, of course (I've moved mine a few times in different directions). I have a 92-year old friend who is still passionate about the markets and investing and he's been doing it for like 70 years.

PS. Just realized that you specifically talking about trading your own money. Why do you think that's different from punting OPM(別人的錢)?

資料來源: sle，elitetrader.com

作者: OPapprentice 時間: 2017-4-27 14:30
我也希望在開始老年癡呆之前可以每天在火車鐵軌上撿點銅板(差點打成銅版)當零花錢. 所以上山下海拜師學藝四處請教高人, 以期訓練矯健身手, 萬一不小心火車迎面來時有能力即時閃躲或甚至翻身上車搶劫!

說真的, 交易如果不涉及賭命, 小賭還是怡情啊!

作者: sec2100 時間: 2017-4-27 15:00

OPapprentice 發表於 2017-4-27 14:30
我也希望在開始老年癡呆之前可以每天在火車鐵軌上撿點銅板(差點打成銅版)當零花錢. 所以上山下海拜師學藝四 ...

OP，我想凡是小心的賣方，

95%以上不會有生存的問題。

作者: William 時間: 2017-4-27 17:41
固然錢滾錢，令人羨慕。
但是，財富是累積而來，成吉思汗也是從小部落第二代出生，

作者: William 時間: 2017-4-27 17:45
然後為人打工賣命，不斷聚集人馬。王永慶也是從小米店開始，電子新貴除時代眷顧外，也有自身努力。
積累家族，從我們為人打工，省吃儉用開始。

作者: William 時間: 2017-4-27 17:52
我的意思是，依我的財富，若小賭不足以養家活口，但是我不選擇豪賭，理由如上述外，我要別人的孳息，別人要我的本。

作者: sec2100 時間: 2017-4-27 19:22

William 發表於 2017-4-27 17:52
我的意思是，依我的財富，若小賭不足以養家活口，但是我不選擇豪賭，理由如上述外，我要別人的孳息，別人要 ...

我覺得選擇權操作對我而言是一份工作，這份工作一樣需要耐心、技藝、專注、本錢、和經驗。所以，和其他工作的差異不大，生存率也是2-5%之間。

作者: 王文忠 時間: 2017-8-3 11:37
我覺得選擇權操作對我而言是一份工作，這份工作一樣需要耐心、技藝、專注、本錢、和經驗。所以，和其他工作的差異不大，生存率也是2-5%之間。

是否意謂,畢業陣亡率95~98%

作者: sec2100 時間: 2017-8-3 11:42
本帖最後由 sec2100 於 2017-8-3 11:44 編輯

王文忠發表於 2017-8-3 11:37
我覺得選擇權操作對我而言是一份工作，這份工作一樣需要耐心、技藝、專注、本錢、和經驗。所以，和其他工作 ...

交易所就是賭場，莊家就是券商和政府及期交所。

但是離開賭場的人，輸的也不多，也認清了交易殘酷的本質，離開了賭場，找回了自己。

留在賭場的贏家比例，1-10%，端視每個人的策略和商品本質。平均而言，當沖客的生存率應該最低。
之所以有10%，我是把證交所也當成賭場也看。長期投資者、短線操作者，巴菲特，我都視為是賭客。

作者: sec2100 時間: 2017-8-3 11:46
我因為文忠的關係，又看了這篇文章一遍，對照今天的期指跌停，有1%的感傷。

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