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本帖最後由 dlin 於 2025-5-20 11:31 編輯

Question, 有一篇文章里, 一段話裡面是這麼說, "我在交易市場發現一個很奇怪的現象, 其實大多數交易者內心所渴望的竟然是賠錢".
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chatgpt:
這段話表面看起來很荒謬,因為每個人進入市場都是想賺錢的,但它其實揭露了一種潛意識的自我破壞傾向(self-sabotage),或說是一種心理矛盾。
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這種現象可能源自以下幾個原因:
1. 潛意識的自我懲罰
有些交易者內心深處對自己沒有足夠的價值感,甚至覺得自己「不配賺錢」,所以在交易中會不自覺地做出錯誤決策,像是逆勢加碼、不停損、賭一口氣。這種行為在心理層面是一種「懲罰自己」的方式。
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2. 證明世界是錯的
有些人心裡其實帶著對世界的不滿或叛逆,比如「別人說這樣會賠錢,我就偏要這樣做給你看」,但實際結果卻是虧損。他們反而在「你看吧,我早就知道會賠」這種心理裡得到一種滿足,像是在驗證自己對這個世界的不信任。
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3. 逃避成功的壓力
成功會帶來壓力與責任,例如賺錢後要持續表現、要面對外界期待等。有些人其實對這種「成功以後的負擔」感到恐懼,因此寧願維持一種「我就是不行」的狀態,雖然痛苦,但反而比較熟悉、安全。
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4. 尋求情緒刺激
賠錢的痛苦會觸發強烈的情緒反應,有些人其實是上癮於這種情緒波動的,就像有人愛玩雲霄飛車一樣,不見得真的是想賠錢,但他們更在意的是那種輸贏之間的強烈感覺,而不是穩定獲利。
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這也是為什麼在交易中,技術只是表層,真正的挑戰是認識自己內心的運作模式。你若發現自己反覆做出明知道不對的決策,很可能不是技術問題,而是潛意識裡其實在尋求一個心理上的補償或出口。
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Question, 還有什麼狀況, 在交易上不容易被察覺, 但它可能是一個問題
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Chatgpt:
交易中真正的敵人,往往不是市場,而是我們「自己內在的一些盲點」。這些盲點不容易察覺,因為它們不是技術上的錯誤,而是心理習性、信念系統、甚至性格特質所導致的行為偏誤。
我整理幾個常見但不容易察覺的陷阱,跟你分享:
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1. 想證明自己是對的,而不是想賺錢
很多人做交易,其實潛意識裡是在「想證明自己的判斷沒錯」。
所以,當市場走反時,他不願意停損,因為停損等於承認自己錯了。
但市場不是拿來證明誰對誰錯的,它只是你操作的對象。
要賺錢,常常要先學會「承認自己錯了」。
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表面:我在執行策略
內在:我想贏過市場、證明我很聰明
結果:越陷越深,錯過調整機會
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2. 不願意讓自己過得太順利
這聽起來很奇怪,但不少人內心其實抗拒「輕鬆就能賺錢」這件事。
因為從小被教育「錢要辛苦賺來才合理」,所以當策略開始穩定賺錢,他反而會懷疑、手癢改策略、提高風險,結果破壞了好不容易建立的優勢。
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表面:我想調整策略優化績效
內在:這樣賺太容易了,不踏實,會有報應吧?
結果:自毀規律與節奏
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3. 潛意識中的懼怕成功
成功之後可能會帶來外界的期待、責任、親人關注,或是身邊朋友的妒忌和比較。有些人其實潛意識怕這些東西,所以寧可「保持平凡」,表面在努力賺錢,實際卻總是自己搞砸。
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表面:我只是運氣不好
內在:我沒準備好承擔一個『成功者』的身份
結果:反覆無常、穩不住績效
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4. 用交易填補內心空虛
有些人其實並不是想賺錢,而是用交易來轉移生活中的壓力感、空虛感、焦慮感。這樣的狀況下,交易變成一種「情緒代償行為」,像是在賭博、尋刺激,而不是理性計算風險報酬。
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表面:我在觀察盤勢找機會
內在:我太焦慮、太無聊了,我需要一點刺激
結果:過度交易、賠錢後又加碼報復
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5. 崇拜複雜、排斥簡單
很多人對簡單策略感到「看不起」,總想找到更聰明、更複雜、更有玄機的方法。這種心理背後可能是「我不想變得平庸,我要當特別的那個人」。但事實上,多數真正穩定的交易者,策略都非常簡單,重點在紀律與執行。
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表面:我要研究更精密的模型
內在:我要當最厲害的那個人
結果:永遠在追下一個聖杯,卻從未穩定賺錢
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6. 不能接受平淡與無聊
穩定交易本質上是一種重複性工作。
真正的高手,能夠忍受「無聊地賺錢」,但大多數人會在無聊中失去紀律。
想要一直找「刺激」,就像一直轉台,結果哪一台節目都沒看完。
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表面:市場沒機會所以我休息
內在:這樣太悶了,我手癢想做點什麼
結果:出手太頻繁、違反策略規則
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大道致簡呀.  資質不良的我.
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rading Biases and How to Correct Them
Trading psychology is often the difference between successful and unsuccessful traders. Understanding and correcting cognitive biases is crucial for consistent performance.
Major Trading Biases
1. Loss Aversion
What it is: The tendency to feel losses more acutely than equivalent gains, leading to holding losing positions too long and selling winners too early.
How it manifests:

Refusing to cut losses at predetermined stop levels
Taking profits too quickly to "lock in" gains
Averaging down on losing positions

Corrections:

Set stop-losses before entering trades and stick to them
Use position sizing that makes losses psychologically manageable
Focus on risk-adjusted returns rather than win/loss ratios
Practice with smaller position sizes until discipline improves

2. Confirmation Bias
What it is: Seeking information that confirms existing beliefs while ignoring contradictory evidence.
How it manifests:

Only reading analysis that supports current positions
Dismissing negative news about held stocks
Interpreting neutral information as positive

Corrections:

Actively seek opposing viewpoints and bear cases
Set up news alerts from diverse sources
Maintain a trading journal with both bullish and bearish scenarios
Regularly review and challenge your investment thesis

3. Overconfidence Bias
What it is: Overestimating one's ability to predict market movements or analyze securities.
How it manifests:

Excessive trading frequency
Taking larger positions than risk management dictates
Ignoring diversification principles
Dismissing the role of luck in past successes

Corrections:

Track your prediction accuracy objectively
Use systematic position sizing rules
Maintain detailed trading records to identify patterns
Study behavioral finance to understand the limits of prediction

4. Anchoring Bias
What it is: Over-relying on the first piece of information encountered when making decisions.
How it manifests:

Fixating on purchase prices when deciding to sell
Using recent highs or lows as reference points for all decisions
Inability to adjust price targets based on new information

Corrections:

Use multiple valuation methods and timeframes
Regularly reassess positions based on current market conditions
Set price targets based on technical and fundamental analysis, not emotions
Practice viewing each trading decision as independent

5. Recency Bias
What it is: Giving greater weight to recent events when making decisions.
How it manifests:

Extrapolating recent trends indefinitely
Overreacting to latest news or market moves
Changing strategies based on recent performance

Corrections:

Analyze longer-term historical data and patterns
Maintain consistent strategies through various market cycles
Use systematic approaches rather than reactionary decisions
Keep perspective on normal market volatility ranges

6. Herding Behavior
What it is: Following the crowd rather than making independent decisions.
How it manifests:

Buying popular stocks at peaks
Panic selling during market downturns
Following social media trading advice blindly

Corrections:

Develop and stick to independent analysis frameworks
Be contrarian when sentiment reaches extremes
Limit exposure to social media trading communities
Focus on fundamental and technical analysis over market sentiment

Systematic Approaches to Bias Correction
1. Create Trading Rules and Systems

Develop written trading plans with specific entry and exit criteria
Use mechanical systems that remove emotional decision-making
Implement position sizing rules based on risk management
Set up automated alerts and orders to reduce emotional interference

2. Maintain Detailed Records

Keep a comprehensive trading journal including:

Entry and exit reasons
Emotional state during trades
Market conditions
Lessons learned


Regularly review patterns in your decision-making
Track performance metrics beyond just returns

3. Use Checklists and Processes

Create pre-trade checklists covering:

Risk assessment
Position sizing
Exit strategy
Market environment analysis


Follow systematic review processes for portfolio management
Establish regular times for objective portfolio assessment

4. Implement Risk Management

Never risk more than you can afford to lose on any single trade
Use position sizing formulas (like the Kelly Criterion or fixed percentage rules)
Diversify across asset classes, sectors, and time horizons
Set maximum drawdown limits for your overall portfolio

5. Continuous Education and Self-Awareness

Study behavioral finance and trading psychology
Practice mindfulness and emotional awareness
Consider working with a trading coach or mentor
Regularly assess your psychological state and its impact on decisions

6. Environmental Controls

Trade in a distraction-free environment
Limit access to news and social media during trading hours
Use tools that enforce cooling-off periods before major decisions
Consider trading smaller sizes during emotionally volatile periods

Practical Implementation
Start Small: Begin implementing bias corrections with smaller position sizes until new habits are established.
Be Patient: Changing ingrained psychological patterns takes time and consistent effort.
Stay Accountable: Share your trading rules with others or join groups focused on disciplined trading.
Measure Progress: Track not just returns but also adherence to your trading rules and emotional discipline.
The goal isn't to eliminate all biases (which is impossible) but to recognize them and have systems in place to minimize their impact on your trading decisions. Successful trading is as much about managing yourself as it is about managing markets.
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本帖最後由 dlin 於 2025-5-29 15:46 編輯

分享一個, 交易人的思維.  
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Question, 今天開盤, 買進兩檔股票, 股票A, 股票B, 兩股的股票都一樣價格, 100元.
股票A 盤中, 慢慢往上 攻漲停,
股票B 盤中, 慢慢往下 要跌停....  
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收盤最後, 股票A 漲停, 股票B 跌停....  
請問... 你會怎麼做??
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我資質差的回答, 一檔+10%, 一檔負10%...
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人家的回答,
你不該在跌停時還有那支股票...  所以應該是, 一支 +10%, 一支是小於負10%.
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.blow my mind
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